9-10 for me

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I'd easily give it a 100/10.

Definitely made up for the terrible Kung Fu Panda 4, it's a great start to a new trilogy and I'm excited to see what's cooking up next.

Long time No See Sonic

@Sonic the wikihog 4 Bro it seems like we are polar opposites of each other. I strongly feel like this is just a decently entertaining movie and I think KFP4 is way better than this. I even made a post about this at the KFP wiki. For me KFP4 is an 8.8/10 while Kingdom gets a 7.5/10. I honestly did not expect I would like KFP4 more than Kingdom. I had high hopes it would be a 9/10 movie. My parents thought this movie was terrible even though I think it is decent. Impressive action and likeable characters but storytelling is a MESS !! The pacing is way too irregular, the narrative is underwhelming and Proximus was a highly disappointing villain for me. I can go on and on about why I think KFP4 is much superior than this.

Coming to the villains I strongly think Chameleon is a 9/10 villain and Proximus is 7 at best. I have even made a post about this at Villains Wiki.

"Pacing is irregular" Bruh... KFP4'S pacing was HORRENDOUS! KFP 4 comes nowhere close to KOTPOTA. And at least Proximus has extablished that he's a major threat to ape kind. Chameleon is never taken seriously and is a highly unimpactful villain.

Please keep your opinion to yourself, because I honestly feel like you're overrating KFP 4, dude. I respect yours, but please don't trigger me beacsuw I personally HATE KFP 4 and POTA is a very underappreciated and underrated franchise.

I am a huge fan of the reboot trilogy and it's an underrated franchise. When the trailer for Kingdom came out I was genuinely impressed. Unfortunately the movie did not live up to its expectations. I did not want a masterpiece or anything I just wanted a good time at the theatres with both action and storytelling.

The pacing of Kingdom is terrible !! Nowhere near as bad as that of KFP4. There are lengthy movies like Oppenheimer, Avatar 2 and Batman 2022. They were all 3 hours long but were incredibly well paced. So do not give me nonsense like "it's not the movie's fault people have low attention spans for lengthy movies." There was no clear direction in which the plot advanced hence a weak narrative. KFP4 on the other hand had a simple story so it was engaging and easy to follow. The movie did have some slow moments in the rushed pace. The movie was so slow my parents took a short nap and several people said they did.

Then Chameleon is a huge step in quality compared to Proximus. She establishes her status as a mysterious urban legend and felt more unique from other generic villains. I liked how depsite her small stature she had a commanding presence over other large animals. Then the movie presented her connections with Po really well. While for Proximus, the "twisting the words of Caesar" storyline is barely explored. It's just scratched on the surface. Proximus was a cool villain in terms of concept. Like an ape who bends Caesar's teachings and wants to weaponize human technology was a great idea but poorly executed and presented IMAO.

We don't even see a scene of him inventing the electric prods. That would have added depth to his character and would shown him to be a technological genius. Instead he is just "presented" as a generic tyrannical ape ruler who wants to conquer ape colonies for power but he is too lazy to do that himself so he hires commanders to do that. That is not what Proximus is but the movie presents him that way. Take Superfly from TMNT: Mutant Mayhem. He gets everything right. He is threatening, charismatic and a technological genius. We see his status as a mysterious mafia kingpin established and his act of stealing technology and gadgets portray him as a threatening villain as well as a technological genius. Then Proximus himself never feels threatening. All the heavy lifting is done by his commanders. I do like strong secondary villains and some of them are even better than the main ones but still the main villain should be threatening as well. Randall Boggs from Monsters Inc does all the heavy lifting and has more screentime but Waternoose too feels like a threat. His well written twist takes the audience by surprise and he is given time to be a villain.

^ Yeah... Sure. She says she's so scary, but what does she do? Kick some copy paste bear down some stairs? 🤣

Meanwhile Proximus commiting ENFORCED SLAVERY and TERRORISM on apes and actually accomplishing those feats. Even at his weakest, the other apes were too scared to fight him physically. And like I said... Sometimes less is more.